Hi Ade! Your wrote:
"The fact that the two accounts differ is an indication that one of the two is not a verbatim presentation of the decalouge as it was written by "the finger of God"on Mount Sinai ."
Okay, so which one is the correct one, the one written by the finger of God? Unless we can know that, isn't it sort of confusing of God to have given us both the "verbatim" edition and the "heavily editorialized and non-verbation" edition? What purpose does it serve in the Divine Plan of The Ages (I love throwing that in!) to have both?
Most important, how could anyone know for certain whcih is which? The answer isn't, "Well, Jesus died for me and I'm free of the Law so none of this matters anyway" as some folks argue when they're stepping into water too deep for their galoshes. (That's not a sideways jab at you Ade)
I like the "Bible" a lot, I really do. As literature, there are marvelous stories to be found within it. Some of the best loved tales of all time are in the OT. There's a lot of ugliness and dreck too. I especially enjoy the 21st Century KJV to read and enjoy the Bible as great literature. I even find many portions of it VERY inspiring! The Bible demonstrates varying degrees of inspiration, varying from sublime (Just as Beethoven, Bach, Brahms) to the assinine (Much as the Butthole Surfers). To view it all as inerrant and infaiible, plenarily (fully) and verbally (right down to the details of each letter and word written) inspired leaves God looking rather like a rambling old man who WONT GET TO THE POINT! MM
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Joe Hovah and his SEVENTEEN Commandments! Not Merely Ten!
by Mistah MOJO in3. thou shalt not take the name of the lord thy god in vain..
6. thou shalt not kill..
8. thou shalt not steal..
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Are You A Born Again Christian Now? If so...
by Mistah MOJO inif so, are you (pick any and all questions that interest you, ignore the others):.
trinitarian or modalist?
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Thanks jgnat! Much obliged. MM
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Are You A Born Again Christian Now? If so...
by Mistah MOJO inif so, are you (pick any and all questions that interest you, ignore the others):.
trinitarian or modalist?
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Are You A Born Again Christian Now? If so...
by Mistah MOJO inif so, are you (pick any and all questions that interest you, ignore the others):.
trinitarian or modalist?
(oneness)?.
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Neither, pan-millenialist: " it will all 'pan out' in the end!" LOL (Glad ya liked the pun!)
Partial preterist, full preterism is a heresy (no second coming). (I'm so surprised! TWO people on this board so far with enough sense to be preterists! Goodonyemate)
Eternal separation from God. If you don't believe in Him nor want to be with Him you will get your wish..eternally. (Perhaps a search into the words aion and aionios would be in order)
Baptism only happens after the acceptance of grace in the 1st century church. (Well, yes, since no one at that time was born into Christianity. However, Acts says "this promise is to you AND YOUR CHILDREN.." I was a Paedobaptist)
Creationism is the only valid reading of Genesis in my view. (I would answer that you're being a modernist in so doing. You're reading modern scientific concern and mind set back into an ancient pre-scientific spiritual document. The writer of Genesis was concerned to teach the spiritual lesson that all of the gods of the "heathen" (the sun, moon, stars, animals, earth) are mere creations of God, not gods themselves. I am a true conservative here by conserving the original intent and purpose of the book. I recommend The Meaning Of Creation by Dr. Conrad Hyers)
I object, none of the above with the exception of Chalce are free of contradictions. (Nothing to object too, just giving options. Left out Monophysitism by accident. Yes, I agree Chalcedon solved the problems quite handily. The definition is a also an excellent one for a Hindu avatar)
>Would you agree or disagree that the resurrected Christ is "fully God and fully Man, one OUSIA (essence) in two Natures simultaneously"? Yes (Ha! I gotcha! I was being purposely sneaky here. Actually, it should be one Person in two natures. But yeah, sneaky doesn't count)
The Jesus is my buddy thing? LOL ( LOL!)
The Olivet discourse dealt with the symbolic apocalypse judgement. That happened in 70 AD. He will return at some future date, end of the world as we know it! (Preterism makes sense out of the nonsense! )
>Is Bible prophecy being fulfilled in the Middle East? No. Israel has not returned, in the land, as a theocracy. (Utterly agreed! The pro-Israel people are going to wind up getting us into world war three, NOT "Armageddon!")
Will the Rapture occur soon? It is irrelevant, We will all meet our maker at some point. (Utterly agreed! Good stuff!)
Are atheists evil? Not in general. They just have nowhere to go when they die!!! LOL (LOL!)
No, and I don't know. I do know that those who leave through Christian fellowship ministries stay out of prison to the tune on 90 plus percent (Okay, could you give me some sources? Thanks)
Are there ghosts? Have you seen, felt, or heard a ghost? No, no. (I have. I wish I was kidding. Both my wife and I, in each others presence, have seen, heard, and felt ghosts) -
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Are You A Born Again Christian Now? If so...
by Mistah MOJO inif so, are you (pick any and all questions that interest you, ignore the others):.
trinitarian or modalist?
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Shining One, maybe you can illumine me a bit about this Board. I'm not all that tech-savvy. How do I keep better track of which of myposts have been answered other than going laboriously back over each one? There probably isn't any other way than checking each one for the latest posting besides my own, but if there is I would like to know it. Also, how does one cut and paste a quote from a previous post and have it appear in a box in one's own response? If you could assist me here I would be much obliged. MM
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Sorcery is a Viable Pioneer Recruiting Technique
by KennyC in"good sense stress", was the description of an elder for a circuit overseer's undue emphasis on the words "the children are helping mommy and daddy to...pioneer.... yes".
he said this during a talk of his in the early 1990's.
upon going to a pioneer meeting on that saturday and seeing him first hand using his hands in a circular motion around a pioneers face who was sitting too close in front of him, he stated "did you ever notice that little glow they have?
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Kenny! I thought you were pulling our legs! LMAO hol cow! That really HAPPENED? THAT IS BIZARRE! Here I thought that, other than the ban on blood, JWs were conventional in their understanding and approach to medicine. How very freaky. I'm glad no one tried to so that kind of weird stuff to ME!
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My Whole Life Seems Like A Fabrication
by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit ini'm brand new here but have been reading for months.
my sincere thanks to those who have come before me, shown me that i'm not alone, that i'm not nuts and not a loser.
i was raised a hoho, pioneered my best years away, i married a nice brother, my dad was an elder, one or of both my parents have been pioneers for 30 years+, we hosted bethel speakers and gb members in our home, my parents have had numerous circuit ass.
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Hi Gill, thank you! My b-day went very well. I'm glad you "blew off the fly" too. Divine blessings to you. MM
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Are You A Born Again Christian Now? If so...
by Mistah MOJO inif so, are you (pick any and all questions that interest you, ignore the others):.
trinitarian or modalist?
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I did go through the "born again" experience, but I am not now an evangelical or a fundamentalist. I suppose I could be called an extremely liberal Protestant with crypto-Byzantine Catholic leanings. To each her or his own, pathwise. MM
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Are You A Born Again Christian Now? If so...
by Mistah MOJO inif so, are you (pick any and all questions that interest you, ignore the others):.
trinitarian or modalist?
(oneness)?.
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Hi Mulan. Thank you for dropping in.
For a long time I would have agreed wholeheartedly about God. Although I reject all anthropomorphisms, and such nonsense, I do have complete confidence in my experience of the Numinous. Yes, my experiences are subjective, just like the rest of my experiences. All experience is subjective. Also, the reality of the Numinous/God can be known by anyone willing to out in the effort and time. Such knowing does not come by ratiocination or the reading of books. I've spent thirty-three years meditating two hours a day (yes its doable if one doesnt watch TV much) and my experience of the Numinous grew forth from my meditation. It is not a Knowing that I can pass on to you via the written word or I would.
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Are You A Born Again Christian Now? If so...
by Mistah MOJO inif so, are you (pick any and all questions that interest you, ignore the others):.
trinitarian or modalist?
(oneness)?.
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Hello Shining One. Thank you for the detailed response! I appreciate the time and effort you took You are quite knowledgeable yourself. MM